I suggest any and all members attending Defcon/Blackhat/BSidesLV meet up?! Who’s going? Roll call!
I get in Wednesday Morning, and leave with regrets Sunday Afternoon.
Might be staying at the Flamingo, but also open to dropping cash on an Airbnb.
I got about 4 other buddies coming as well, so we can all drop on a spot if need be.
I don’t know the location of where I am staying. But I am in Vegas from tomorrow! Lets make it happen!
Are there any CTF’s you guys want to take part in? Any talks?
I wish I could go, but not this year. 
Maybe next time.
I left after the first day, I am starting to become disappointed in defcon. It has become extremely PC and bitchified.
(not to mention they have the worst music in the world)
What is it about it that you disliked? I definitely got a vibe that a lot of people there were first-time defcon attendee’s, I was one for example.
I also got the vibe that a lot of people who are there just to see whats what, rather than people who actively work in this field everyday.
I must say though, I really enjoyed the main talks, the tracks, and man, the skytalks are amazing. I had to donate after the one on exposing public healthcare, skytalks are really cool. You should of attended one of them.
I was not at defcon so I can’t speak for it, but here is a list of the most notable complaints I’ve heard from some people who went to defcon
I don’t know how much of this holds true, but I just put it here to give you a general idea of what people disliked about defcon.
Vegas as unwanted sexual advances all the time, that’s just vegas, as well as drugs.
The thing I hated about it, was how everything is impossible to get into if you’re under 21 (in the evenings). Hotel security was also an issue for a lot.
QueerCon pool party is the best thing about DEF CON. That and Ramsay’s Beef Wellington.
Are you under 21 yrs old?
Everything on that list is a bad norm of Vegas except “corporatism”.
I usually judge hacker gatherings on six spectrums.
Who is the gathering intended for?
BSides are usually 2.
Defcon is definitely Number 3.
Blackhat would be 4.
RSA would be 5.
If you go to 6, you don’t go to any other. You also don’t pass go, or collect $200, or leave the US without submitting a request to your agency and getting approval to leave.
Hacker Camps like CCCamp and SHA2017 are number 1. Camps hosted in countries where a handful of their attendees aren’t legally allowed to come to the US and other countries. Closest to 1 I’ve heard about in the US is Toorcamp.
Yes. 19 years old 
Thanks. This categorization makes sense. Never thought of cons that way before.
If you want to see young and talented check out the work of @exploit, he’s 16, and has been doing this since he was 13.
0x00sec is full of us young people with various talents, now that i think of it.
There’s also a handful of supremely average folk in their late 20’s.
RSA is overpriced but worth it.
Fed spotted.
What makes it worth it?
Researchers without jobs can’t afford RSA. Def not worth it in their case.
VERY specific cases to attend RSA.
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